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Followup of #5955
After upgrading to torch 2.7, the new version of triton (3.3.1) lacks most of the configs tuned before.
This PR can let the fused moe use config with older triton version, when current triton version doesn't include tuned config.

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Summary of Changes

Hello team, gemini-code-assist here to provide a summary of this pull request. This PR, authored by Fridge003, addresses an issue where upgrading to newer versions of Triton (specifically 3.3.1 with torch 2.7) can result in missing tuned configurations for the fused MoE kernel. The core problem is that new Triton versions might not include the performance-optimized configs generated for previous versions. To mitigate this, the PR introduces a fallback mechanism. If a tuned configuration for the currently installed Triton version is not found, the system will now attempt to load configurations from directories corresponding to older, supported Triton versions. This ensures that the fused MoE kernel can still utilize a tuned config, even if it's not specifically optimized for the exact current Triton version, preventing a complete fallback to a potentially much slower default configuration.

Highlights

  • Triton Config Fallback: Implements a fallback mechanism in the get_moe_configs function to search for and use tuned configurations from older, supported Triton versions if a config for the current version is not found.
  • Supported Triton Versions: Adds a list of explicitly supported Triton versions (3.3.1, 3.2.0, 3.1.0) that the fallback mechanism will check, prioritized from newest to oldest.
  • Logging Updates: Updates logging to provide an informational message when a config for the current Triton version is found and a warning message when falling back to a config from an older Triton version, indicating potential sub-optimal performance.

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  • python/sglang/srt/layers/moe/fused_moe_triton/fused_moe.py
    • Added supported_triton_versions list near line 987 to define the order of fallback.
    • Modified the get_moe_configs function (starting around line 1014) to iterate through supported_triton_versions and attempt to load configs from older version directories if the current version's config is missing.
    • Changed log_info_on_rank0 to logger.info for standard logging when a config is found (line 1010).
    • Added a logger.warning message (around line 1026) when falling back to an older Triton version's config, including the fallback version and file path.
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zhyncs commented Jun 9, 2025

amazing ideas

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zhyncs commented Jun 9, 2025

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Code Review

This pull request introduces a helpful fallback mechanism for MoE kernel configurations, allowing the system to use configurations from older Triton versions if the one for the current version isn't found. This is a good approach to handle missing configurations after Triton upgrades, as described with version 3.3.1.

The core logic for the fallback seems sound and addresses the stated motivation well. The warning message about potential sub-optimal performance when a fallback is used is also a good addition.

I've identified one medium-severity issue related to a change in logging behavior that might be unintentional. Additionally, I'd like to remind you about the unit test checklist item in the PR description.

Summary of Findings

  • Logging Behavior Change: The logging for successfully found MoE kernel configurations was changed from log_info_on_rank0 (logs on rank 0 only) to logger.info (logs on all ranks). This might lead to increased log verbosity in distributed settings. This was identified in python/sglang/srt/layers/moe/fused_moe_triton/fused_moe.py.
  • Unit Tests: The PR checklist for adding unit tests is currently unchecked. Consider adding a test case to verify the new fallback mechanism, for example, by simulating a missing configuration for the current Triton version and ensuring an older version's configuration is correctly loaded.

Merge Readiness

The core fallback logic is a valuable addition. However, there's a potential issue with a change in logging behavior that could lead to verbose logs in distributed environments. I recommend clarifying and, if necessary, addressing this logging concern. Additionally, as noted in the PR checklist, unit tests for this new functionality would be beneficial for long-term maintainability.

Due to the medium-severity logging concern, I am requesting changes. I am not authorized to approve pull requests; please ensure further review and approval from other maintainers after addressing the feedback.

@zhyncs zhyncs merged commit a979daa into sgl-project:main Jun 9, 2025
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@Fridge003 Fridge003 deleted the triton branch June 9, 2025 23:11
almaslof pushed a commit to mpashkovskii/sglang that referenced this pull request Jun 11, 2025
walker-ai pushed a commit to walker-ai/sglang that referenced this pull request Jul 8, 2025
Merge branch 'sgl_20250610_sync_tag047 of git@code.alipay.com:Theta/SGLang.git into main

https://code.alipay.com/Theta/SGLang/pull_requests/52


Reviewed-by: 剑川 <jianchuan.gys@antgroup.com>


* [Bugfix] Fix slice operation when chunk size mismatch (sgl-project#6697)
* [Bugfix] Fix ChatCompletion endpoint of mini_lb when stream is set (sgl-project#6703)
* [CI] Fix setup of disaggregation with different tp (sgl-project#6706)
* [PD] Remove Unnecessary Exception Handling for FastQueue.get() (sgl-project#6712)
* Fuse routed_scaling_factor in DeepSeek (sgl-project#6710)
* Overlap two kernels in DeepSeek with communication (sgl-project#6711)
* Minor refactor two-batch overlap (sgl-project#6682)
* Speed up when having padding tokens two-batch overlap (sgl-project#6668)
* [Feature] Support Flashinfer fp8 blockwise GEMM kernel on Blackwell (sgl-project#6479)
* Fix LoRA bench (sgl-project#6719)
* temp
* Fix PP for Qwen3 MoE (sgl-project#6709)
* [feat] triton kernel for get_last_loc (sgl-project#6676)
* [fix] more mem for draft_extend cuda_graph (sgl-project#6726)
* [PD] bug fix:  Update status if nixl receiver send a a dummy req. (sgl-project#6720)
* Tune memory arguments on B200 (sgl-project#6718)
* Add DeepSeek-R1-0528 function call chat template (sgl-project#6725)
* refactor(tool call): Fix BaseFormatDetector tool_index issue and refactor `parse_streaming_increment` (sgl-project#6715)
* Add draft extend CUDA graph for Triton backend (sgl-project#6705)
* refactor apply_w8a8_block_fp8_linear in fp (sgl-project#6545)
* [PD] Support completion endpoint (sgl-project#6729)
* PD Rust LB (PO2) (sgl-project#6437)
* Super tiny enable sole usage of expert distribution metrics and update doc (sgl-project#6680)
* Support picking variants of EPLB algorithms (sgl-project#6728)
* Support tuning DeepEP configs (sgl-project#6742)
* [test] add ut and bm for get_last_loc (sgl-project#6746)
* Fix mem_fraction_static for AMD CI (sgl-project#6748)
* [fix][RL] Fix DeepSeekV3ForCausalLM.post_load_weights for multiple update weight (sgl-project#6265)
* Improve EPLB logical to physical dispatch map (sgl-project#6727)
* Update DeepSeek-R1-0528 function call chat template (sgl-project#6765)
* [PD] Optimize time out logic and add env var doc for mooncake (sgl-project#6761)
* Fix aiohttp 'Chunk too big' in bench_serving (sgl-project#6737)
* Support sliding window in triton backend (sgl-project#6509)
* Fix shared experts fusion error (sgl-project#6289)
* Fix one bug in the grouped-gemm triton kernel (sgl-project#6772)
* update llama4 chat template and pythonic parser (sgl-project#6679)
* feat(tool call): Enhance Llama32Detector for improved JSON parsing in non-stream (sgl-project#6784)
* Support token-level quantization for EP MoE (sgl-project#6782)
* Temporarily lower mmlu threshold for triton sliding window backend (sgl-project#6785)
* ci: relax test_function_call_required (sgl-project#6786)
* Add intel_amx backend for Radix Attention for CPU (sgl-project#6408)
* Fix incorrect LoRA weight loading for fused gate_up_proj (sgl-project#6734)
* fix(PD-disaggregation): Can not get local ip (sgl-project#6792)
* [FIX] mmmu bench serving result display error (sgl-project#6525) (sgl-project#6791)
* Bump torch to 2.7.0 (sgl-project#6788)
* chore: bump sgl-kernel v0.1.5 (sgl-project#6794)
* Improve profiler and integrate profiler in bench_one_batch_server (sgl-project#6787)
* chore: upgrade sgl-kernel v0.1.5 (sgl-project#6795)
* [Minor] Always append newline after image token when parsing chat message (sgl-project#6797)
* Update CI tests for Llama4 models (sgl-project#6421)
* [Feat] Enable PDL automatically on Hopper architecture (sgl-project#5981)
* chore: update blackwell docker (sgl-project#6800)
* misc: cache is_hopper_arch (sgl-project#6799)
* Remove contiguous before Flashinfer groupwise fp8 gemm (sgl-project#6804)
* Correctly abort the failed grammar requests & Improve the handling of abort (sgl-project#6803)
* [EP] Add cuda kernel for moe_ep_pre_reorder (sgl-project#6699)
* Add draft extend CUDA graph for flashinfer backend  (sgl-project#6805)
* Refactor CustomOp to avoid confusing bugs (sgl-project#5382)
* Tiny log prefill time (sgl-project#6780)
* Tiny fix EPLB assertion about rebalancing period and recorder window size (sgl-project#6813)
* Add simple utility to dump tensors for debugging (sgl-project#6815)
* Fix profiles do not have consistent names (sgl-project#6811)
* Speed up rebalancing when using non-static dispatch algorithms (sgl-project#6812)
* [1/2] Add Kernel support for Cutlass based Fused FP4 MoE (sgl-project#6093)
* [Router] Fix k8s Service Discovery (sgl-project#6766)
* Add CPU optimized kernels for topk and rope fusions  (sgl-project#6456)
* fix new_page_count_next_decode (sgl-project#6671)
* Fix wrong weight reference in dynamic EPLB (sgl-project#6818)
* Minor add metrics to expert location updater (sgl-project#6816)
* [Refactor] Rename `n_share_experts_fusion` as `num_fused_shared_experts` (sgl-project#6735)
* [FEAT] Add transformers backend support  (sgl-project#5929)
* [fix] recover auto-dispatch for rmsnorm and rope (sgl-project#6745)
* fix ep_moe_reorder kernel bugs (sgl-project#6858)
* [Refactor] Multimodal data processing for VLM (sgl-project#6659)
* Decoder-only Scoring API (sgl-project#6460)
* feat: add dp-rank to KV events (sgl-project#6852)
* Set `num_fused_shared_experts` as `num_shared_experts` when shared_experts fusion is not disabled (sgl-project#6736)
* Fix one missing arg in DeepEP (sgl-project#6878)
* Support LoRA in TestOpenAIVisionServer and fix fused kv_proj loading bug. (sgl-project#6861)
* support 1 shot allreduce  in 1-node and 2-node using mscclpp (sgl-project#6277)
* Fix Qwen3MoE missing token padding optimization (sgl-project#6820)
* Tiny update error hints (sgl-project#6846)
* Support layerwise rebalancing experts (sgl-project#6851)
* Tiny allow profiler API to auto create directory (sgl-project#6865)
* Support Blackwell DeepEP docker images (sgl-project#6868)
* [EP] Add cuda kernel for moe_ep_post_reorder (sgl-project#6837)
* [theta]merge 0605
* oai: fix openAI client error with single request via batch api (sgl-project#6170)
* [PD] Fix potential perf spike caused by tracker gc and optimize doc (sgl-project#6764)
* Use deepgemm instead of triton for fused_qkv_a_proj_with_mqa (sgl-project#6890)
* [CUTLASS-FP4-MOE]  Introduce CutlassMoEParams class for easy initialization of Cutlass Grouped Gems Metadata (sgl-project#6887)
* bugfix(OAI): Fix image_data processing for jinja chat templates (sgl-project#6877)
* [CPU] enable CI for PRs, add Dockerfile and auto build task (sgl-project#6458)
* AITER backend extension and workload optimizations (sgl-project#6838)
* [theta]merge
* [theta]merge
* [Feature] Support Flashinfer fmha on Blackwell (sgl-project#6930)
* Fix a bug in abort & Improve docstrings for abort (sgl-project#6931)
* Tiny support customize DeepEP max dispatch tokens per rank (sgl-project#6934)
* Sync the changes on cuda graph runners (sgl-project#6932)
* [PD] Optimize transfer queue forward logic for dummy rank (sgl-project#6922)
* [Refactor] image data process in bench_serving (sgl-project#6879)
* [fix] logical_to_all_physical_map index 256 is out of bounds in EP parallel. (sgl-project#6767)
* Add triton fused moe kernel config for E=257 on B200 (sgl-project#6939)
* [sgl-kernel] update deepgemm (sgl-project#6942)
* chore: bump sgl-kernel v0.1.6 (sgl-project#6943)
* Minor compile fused topk (sgl-project#6944)
* [Bugfix] pipeline parallelism and Eagle Qwen2 (sgl-project#6910)
* Tiny re-introduce profile id logging (sgl-project#6912)
* Add triton version as a fused_moe_triton config search key to avoid performace decrease in different Triton version (sgl-project#5955)
* reduce torch.zeros overhead in moe align block size kernel (sgl-project#6369)
* chore: upgrade sgl-kernel v0.1.6 (sgl-project#6945)
* add fbgemm moe grouped gemm kernel benchmark (sgl-project#6924)
* [Docker] Add docker file for SGL Router (sgl-project#6915)
* Disabling mixed chunked prefill when eagle is enabled (sgl-project#6874)
* Add canary for EPLB rebalancing (sgl-project#6895)
* Refactor global_server_args_dict (sgl-project#6866)
* Fuse routed scaling factor in topk_reduce kernel (sgl-project#6220)
* Update server timeout time in AMD CI. (sgl-project#6953)
* [misc] add is_cpu() (sgl-project#6950)
* Add H20 fused MoE kernel tuning configs for DeepSeek-R1/V3 (sgl-project#6885)
* Add a CUDA kernel for fusing mapping and weighted sum for MoE. (sgl-project#6916)
* chore: bump sgl-kernel v0.1.6.post1 (sgl-project#6955)
* chore: upgrade sgl-kernel v0.1.6.post1 (sgl-project#6957)
* [DeepseekR1-FP4] Add Support for nvidia/DeepSeekR1-FP4 model (sgl-project#6853)
* Revert "Fuse routed scaling factor in topk_reduce kernel (sgl-project#6220)" (sgl-project#6968)
* [AMD] Add more tests to per-commit-amd (sgl-project#6926)
* chore: bump sgl-kernel v0.1.7 (sgl-project#6963)
* Slightly improve the sampler to skip unnecessary steps (sgl-project#6956)
* rebase h20 fused_moe config (sgl-project#6966)
* Fix CI and triton moe Configs (sgl-project#6974)
* Remove unnecessary kernels of num_token_non_padded (sgl-project#6965)
* Extend cuda graph capture bs for B200 (sgl-project#6937)
* Fuse routed scaling factor in deepseek (sgl-project#6970)
* Sync cuda graph runners (sgl-project#6976)
* Fix draft extend ut stability with flush cache (sgl-project#6979)
* Fix triton sliding window test case (sgl-project#6981)
* Fix expert distribution dumping causes OOM (sgl-project#6967)
* Minor remove one kernel for DeepSeek (sgl-project#6977)
* [perf][sgl-kernel] extend cutlass_mla_decode to support num_head < 128 (sgl-project#6929)
* Enable more unit tests for AMD CI. (sgl-project#6983)
* Use torch.compile to fuse flash attention decode metadata preparation (sgl-project#6973)
* Eliminate stream sync to speed up LoRA batch init  (sgl-project#6960)
* support qwen3 emebedding (sgl-project#6990)
* Fix torch profiler bugs for bench_offline_throughput.py (sgl-project#6557)
* chore: upgrade flashinfer v0.2.6.post1 jit (sgl-project#6958)
* cleanup tmp dir (sgl-project#7007)
* chore: update pr test xeon (sgl-project#7008)
* Fix cutlass MLA gets almost zero accuracy (sgl-project#6998)
* Update amd nightly models CI. (sgl-project#6992)
* feat: add direct routing strategy to DP worker (sgl-project#6884)
* Fallback to lower triton version for unfound fused moe configs (sgl-project#7013)
* Fix torchvision version for Blackwell (sgl-project#7015)
* Simplify prepare_extend_after_decode (sgl-project#6987)
* Migrate to assertEqual (sgl-project#6741)
* Fix torch version in blackwell dockerfile (sgl-project#7017)
* chore: update pr test xeon (sgl-project#7018)
* Update default settings for blackwell (sgl-project#7023)
* Support both approximate and exact expert distribution collection (sgl-project#6964)
* Add decode req pool (sgl-project#6980)
* [theta]merge 0610
* [theta]merge 0610
* [CI] Add CI workflow for sgl-router docker build (sgl-project#7027)
* Fix fused_moe triton configs (sgl-project#7029)
* CPU: map changes from developing branch in sgl-kernel (sgl-project#6833)
* chore: bump v0.4.7 (sgl-project#7038)
* Update README.md (sgl-project#7040)
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